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Carbon Is The Cost Nobody Budgets

03 June 2026 57:07 Beyond Cost

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For 35 years, the world has measured sustainability by one number: carbon. But the same steel coil can produce carbon footprints that differ by more than 35%, all ISO-compliant, all "correct."

In this episode of Beyond Cost, host Jakob Etzel sits down with Prof. Dr. Jana Backes, Junior Professor for Safety, Security and Sustainability Evaluations in Foresight Research at RWTH Aachen University, to unpack what cost engineers and procurement leaders actually need to know about carbon accounting.

From CBAM and emission costs already moving through European supply chains, to why CO2 was just the warm-up, to how AI is starting to help LCA practitioners manage the complexity of real value chain data, Jana explains why standardization, not certification, is the real fix.

In this conversation, you will learn:

  • Why two ISO-compliant carbon footprints can land 35% apart

  • How procurement should be pricing carbon into supply chain forecasts today

  • Why biodiversity is the next indicator to watch - Where AI helps in LCA, and where human judgment still wins

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