Content and Conversation: Organic Growth Insights from Siege Media
Content and Conversation: Organic Growth Insights from Siege Media

Eli Schwartz on Google’s GEO Advice and SEO Careers Today

01 June 2026 1:05:36 Siege Media

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About this episode

Ross Hudgens sits down with Eli Schwartz, author of Product-Led SEO and former VP of SEO at SurveyMonkey, for a wide-ranging conversation on the real state of SEO in 2026.

 

They break down Google's new AI search guidance (spoiler: it's basically just SEO), why there's a massive mismatch between what companies want from SEO teams and what they're getting, and why Eli thinks the SEO career path is broken but the demand for real SEO has never been higher.

 

They also get into which industries are best positioned for the LLM era, why technical SEO is actually becoming more valuable, and why Eli thinks SEOs should start thinking of themselves as product managers.

 

Chapter Markers

00:00:10 – Google's new AI search guidance

00:07:26 – Manipulation isn’t a strategy

00:12:22 – The SEO career mismatch

00:17:50 – Why SEO teams can't show their value

00:25:26 – New entrants and dying conferences

00:36:17 – The skills SEOs need now

00:43:35 – Why the best SEOs build things

00:57:45 – Which industries win in the LLM era

 

Show Links

Google’s GEO advice: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/fundamentals/ai-optimization-guide

 

Eli on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwartze/

 

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