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The Anxious Achiever
The Anxious Achiever

Leading For Human Agency With SAP's V.R. Ferose

06 November 2025 1:12:54 Morra Aarons-Mele

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About this episode

In today’s high-pressure world, leading with love isn’t idealistic, it’s essential. In this episode, I sit down with V.R. Ferose, 26-year SAP leader and Head of SAP Academy for Engineering and founder of the Autism at Work program, to talk about why love as a leadership practice, seeing people clearly, protecting dignity, and amplifying agency, is the most powerful business strategy of all. He shares why trust compounds over time, how to lead with both strength and compassion, and why the future belongs to leaders who lead with heart intelligence, not just artificial intelligence. Get ready to rethink success, rediscover meaning, and learn how leading with love can create workplaces where everyone can thrive.


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In this Episode, You Will Learn

00:00 Meet V.R. Ferose, 26-year SAP leader and Head of SAP Academy for Engineering.

07:00 How history’s great social movements teach modern leadership lessons.

15:45 What “only strength respects strength” really means when facing conflict.

24:00 Why heart intelligence, not AI, is our greatest human advantage.

32:45 How real learning and growth happen through in-person connection.

37:30 How AI is eroding creativity and reflection.

42:45 The link between social comparison and anxiety.

48:45 What is the origin of Autism at Work?

55:00 Why “Autism at Work” began as a choiceless decision.

01:04:00 Why do so many high-achievers feel boxed in and powerless?


Resources + Links

Get a copy of my book - The Anxious Achiever

Watch the podcast on YouTube 

Find more resources on our website morraam.com


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Follow me: on LinkedIn @morraaronsmele + Instagram @morraam

Follow V.R. on LinkedIn @ferosevr 

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