Rob Zuber - The Future of Software Engineering in the Age of AI Agents
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In this episode of Day Today, Greg Michaelson sits down with Rob Zuber, CTO of CircleCI, for a wide-ranging conversation about software engineering, developer tools, AI coding agents, and the future of building software.
Rob shares his journey from manufacturing engineering and factory-floor data analysis to leading one of the most influential companies in modern software delivery. Along the way, he discusses the evolution of CI/CD, lessons from the dot-com era, and why today's AI boom feels both familiar and fundamentally different.
Topics include:
- The origins and evolution of CircleCI
- Why speed and feedback loops remain the core of software delivery
- How engineering teams are using AI coding agents like Claude Code and Codex
- Managing token costs and AI infrastructure at scale
- The changing role of IDEs, terminals, and developer interfaces
- Agent experience (AX) and designing products for both humans and AI systems
- Fine-tuning models versus large-context workflows
- The future of code reviews, pull requests, and automated validation
- What software engineering organizations will look like as AI-generated code becomes the norm
Rob also explores a provocative question: if AI can write code, can we eventually trust systems enough that humans no longer need to review every line? The discussion offers a thoughtful look at where software development is headed and the challenges engineering teams must solve next.
Whether you're a software engineer, engineering leader, startup founder, or AI enthusiast, this conversation provides valuable insight into the technologies and workflows reshaping the future of software development.
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