Data Day with Greg Michaelson
Data Day with Greg Michaelson

Rob Zuber - The Future of Software Engineering in the Age of AI Agents

20 June 2026 55:06 Greg Michaelson

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In this episode of Day Today, Greg Michaelson sits down with Rob Zuber, CTO of CircleCI, for a wide-ranging conversation about software engineering, developer tools, AI coding agents, and the future of building software.

Rob shares his journey from manufacturing engineering and factory-floor data analysis to leading one of the most influential companies in modern software delivery. Along the way, he discusses the evolution of CI/CD, lessons from the dot-com era, and why today's AI boom feels both familiar and fundamentally different.

Topics include:

  • The origins and evolution of CircleCI
  • Why speed and feedback loops remain the core of software delivery
  • How engineering teams are using AI coding agents like Claude Code and Codex
  • Managing token costs and AI infrastructure at scale
  • The changing role of IDEs, terminals, and developer interfaces
  • Agent experience (AX) and designing products for both humans and AI systems
  • Fine-tuning models versus large-context workflows
  • The future of code reviews, pull requests, and automated validation
  • What software engineering organizations will look like as AI-generated code becomes the norm

Rob also explores a provocative question: if AI can write code, can we eventually trust systems enough that humans no longer need to review every line? The discussion offers a thoughtful look at where software development is headed and the challenges engineering teams must solve next.

Whether you're a software engineer, engineering leader, startup founder, or AI enthusiast, this conversation provides valuable insight into the technologies and workflows reshaping the future of software development.

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