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Is Agentic AI Your New Security Team or Your Worst Nightmare? Marc Hornbeek Weighs In

05 November 2025 1:03:01 Coder

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AI is everywhere in security. But most teams are still stuck in split-screen mode—DevSecOps over here, SecOps over there, everyone pointing fingers when things go wrong.

Marc Hornbeek (AKA DevOps-the-Gray) has a better way.

The CEO and Principal Consultant of Engineering DevOps Consulting lays out a model for Continuous Security that meets developers where they are and brings security along for the ride. In his book, Intelligent Continuous Security, he talks about turning AI into a watchdog that actually works in real time, across tools and org charts. 

Marc and Nicky discuss why attacks are slipping right past developers, how to move toward real engineering maturity, and how to stop patching the same problems again and again.

If you’re ready to move from firefighting to forward motion, start here.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  1. Why dev and security still operate in silos
  2. What real continuous security looks like with AI
  3. How to make AI your ally instead of a threat


Things to listen for: 

(00:00) Meet Marc Hornbeek

(00:21) The AI threat of deepfakes, shadow AI, and real breaches

(03:16) SolarWinds, Log4j, and lessons security still hasn’t learned

(05:52) Which team really owns risk in the AI era?

(09:39) Are today’s AI defenses tomorrow’s biggest vulnerabilities?

(11:02) How agentic AI changes the speed and scale of defense

(13:18) AI swarms, or when attacks become fully autonomous

(15:34) Can AI close the security skills gap or make it worse?

(18:04) Mentorship and saving junior engineers in the AI age

(25:55) Continuous security vs. DevSecOps

(33:59) Alert fatigue and smarter observability for modern pipelines

(40:51) The line between helpful AI and dangerous AI

(48:49) What a developer’s Monday looks like with continuous security

(53:19) How AI-driven zero trust works in practice

(57:29) AI’s future in security and why collaboration wins


Resources:
Marc Hornbeek's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marchornbeek/
Engineering DevOps Counseling website: https://www.engineeringdevops.com/
Get a copy of Marc's book, Intelligent Continuous Security: https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/intelligent-continuous-security/9798341615908/

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